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		<title>Are Mennonites Following the Good Shepherd or the Green Shepherd?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;&#8230; if The Green Shepherd turns up in your pulpit, please speak up and tell your pastor you would rather hear an emphasis on the Lord Jesus Christ, the &#8220;Good Shepherd,&#8221; and His burden for lost sheep &#8212; not His burden for climate change.&#8221; Jan Markell, The Church of Climate Change: Here Comes The Green [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=3053&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230; if The Green Shepherd turns up in your pulpit, please speak up and tell your pastor you would rather hear an emphasis on the Lord Jesus Christ, the &#8220;Good Shepherd,&#8221; and His burden for lost sheep &#8212; not His burden for climate change.&#8221;<br />
Jan Markell, <a href="http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/olivetree/6-climate.htm">The Church of Climate Change: Here Comes The Green Shepherd</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Is the MB Herald going the way of the Green Shepherd?</p>
<p>In the <a href="http://www.mbconf.ca/home/products_and_services/resources/publications/mb_herald/october_2011/">October 2011 MB Herald</a> called <em>Sustainable Lifestyles</em> is an article called <a href="http://www.mbconf.ca/home/products_and_services/resources/publications/mb_herald/october_2011/features/riding/"><strong>Riding the Green Wave</strong></a> which encourages readers to get on board with nine tips for creation care action. These ideas come from <em>A Personal Path to Environmental and Societal Sustainability</em> from ocho.uwaterloo.ca. A complete, more comprehensive list where these tips appear to be drawn from can be found at the following link:</p>
<p>http://ocho.uwaterloo.ca/~pfieguth/Personal/EnergyLimits/Documents/powerdown-tasks.pdf</p>
<p>This list might more aptly be called <em>How to Power Down, Pray Later and Become a Third World Nation</em>.</p>
<p>As seen earlier this year, this is not the first time that Mennonites are falling for the world&#8217;s agenda of sustainability. See these examples:</p>
<p><strong>Mennonites and Sustainable Development</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/mennonites-and-sustainable-development/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/mennonites-and-sustainable-development/</a></p>
<p><strong>Mennonites and World Peace </strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/mennonites-and-world-peace/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/mennonites-and-world-peace/</a></p>
<p>Of course, it is not only Mennonites who are following the Green Shepherd, but it is disappointing to see them join the &#8216;church of climate change and sustainability.&#8217; For further reading, see the following:</p>
<p><strong>The Church of Climate Change: Here Comes The Green Shepherd</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/olivetree/6-climate.htm">http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/olivetree/6-climate.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>Good-bye and Good-Riddance: Sustainable Development</strong><br />
<a href="http://forcingchange.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/good-bye-and-good-riddance-sustainable-development/">http://forcingchange.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/good-bye-and-good-riddance-sustainable-development/</a></p>
<p><strong>A New World Agenda: Canada&#8217;s Role In Sustainable Development </strong><br />
<a href="http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/carl_teichrib-6-99.html">http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/carl_teichrib-6-99.html</a></p>
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		<title>Nine Churches Say “No” to Shane Claiborne at US Mennonite Brethren Youth Conference</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nine Churches Say “No” to Shane Claiborne at US Mennonite Brethren Youth Conference Earlier this year the “Christian Leader” magazine covered the Shane Claiborne controversy. This post serves to clarify some of the issues of concern. – Administrator Shane Claiborne is a sincere, “ordinary radical” committed to achieving justice for the poor. He has devoted [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=3061&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Nine Churches Say “No” to Shane Claiborne at US Mennonite Brethren Youth Conference</strong></p>
<p><em>Earlier this year the “Christian Leader” magazine covered the Shane Claiborne controversy.  This post serves to clarify some of the issues of concern. </em>– Administrator</p>
<p>Shane Claiborne is a sincere, “ordinary radical” committed to achieving justice for the poor. He has devoted his life to this end. For him, loving Jesus and loving the poor go hand-in-hand. The sincerity and seriousness with which he pursues this is admirable in many ways. Yet nine Mennonite Brethren churches kept their youth home from the US Youth Conference last Easter because he was the keynote speaker. Why would these churches question the decision of setting him up as an example and teacher for our youth? His influence goes beyond what he would say at the conference through his books, website, and public appearances. </p></blockquote>
<p>Continue reading this article <a href="http://www.mennonitebrethren.net/?p=209">HERE</a> at <em>The Mennonite Brethren Network</em>.</p>
<p>Related:</p>
<p><strong>Claiborne’s next stop – Emerging Festival (UPDATED)</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/claibornes-next-stop-emerging-festival/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/claibornes-next-stop-emerging-festival/</a></p>
<p><strong>MB youth hear controversial Claiborne – UPDATED</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/mb-youth-hear-controversial-claiborne/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/mb-youth-hear-controversial-claiborne/</a></p>
<p><strong>Jim Wallis, Shane Claiborne and Progressive Christianity</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/jim-wallis-shane-claiborne-and-progressive-christianity/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/jim-wallis-shane-claiborne-and-progressive-christianity/</a></p>
<p><strong>Shane Claiborne’s Common Prayer</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/shane-claibornes-common-prayer/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/shane-claibornes-common-prayer/</a></p>
<p><strong>The NCR Sheds More Light on the Mennonite Brethren’s 2011 Youth Convention Speaker, Shane Claiborne</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/the-ncr-sheds-more-light-on-the-mennonite-brethrens-2011-youth-convention-speaker/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/the-ncr-sheds-more-light-on-the-mennonite-brethrens-2011-youth-convention-speaker/</a></p>
<p><strong>MB Herald Spotlights Claiborne’s Socialist Propaganda</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/mb-herald-spotlights-shane-claiborne/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/mb-herald-spotlights-shane-claiborne/</a></p>
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		<title>Partnership or Compromise?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As discussed in last year&#8217;s MB Herald, it looks like some influential Canadian Mennonites have decided to go ahead and partner together to educate the next generation of church leaders&#8230; WCMS is an inter-Mennonite partnership that facilitates the offering of graduate and professional theological education in Winnipeg, Manitoba. The primary role of WCMS is to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=3050&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/10/23/how-not-to-develop-effective-leadership-mb-training/">As discussed in last year&#8217;s MB Herald</a>, it looks like some influential Canadian Mennonites have decided to go ahead and partner together to educate the next generation of church leaders&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>WCMS is an inter-Mennonite partnership that facilitates the offering of graduate and professional theological education in Winnipeg, Manitoba.  The primary role of WCMS is to link the church constituency with the resources of various Mennonite educational institutions. At this time, students can gain graduate theological education by seeking admission to the MA Theological Studies offered by the Canadian Mennonite University or the Certificate of Christian Ministry offered through Mennonite Brethren Biblical Seminary (MBBS) of Fresno, CA or Associated Mennonite Biblical Seminary (AMBS) of Elkhart, Indiana. WCMS can also facilitate academic advising and coaching for those who train for vocational ministry. WCMS seeks to provide continued professional education for pastors and pastoral candidates through pastoral round tables, workshops and other special events.<br />
[www.cmu.ca]</p></blockquote>
<p>The WCMS centre, located on the Canadian Mennonite University campus in Winnipeg, Manitoba, is supported by the following Mennonite organizations:</p>
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<strong>Associated Mennonite Biblical Seminary</strong> (AMBS)</p>
<p><strong>Mennonite Brethren Biblical Seminary</strong> (MBBS)</p>
<p><strong>Canadian Mennonite University</strong> (CMU)</p>
<p><strong>Steinbach Bible College</strong> (SBC)</p>
<p><strong>The Winnipeg Theological Cooperative</strong> (affiliated with the Faculty of Theology, Canadian Mennonite University, <a href="http://www.stbens.ca/retreathome.htm">St. Benedict’s Retreat and Conference Centre</a>, St. John’s College and William and Catherine Booth College)</p>
<p>-http://www.cmu.ca/programs/seminary.html</p></blockquote>
<p>By partnering together, does this mean that these Mennonites have forgotten why they are named after Menno Simons? Are they now in agreement with Roman Catholicism, ecumenism, monasticism, and the emerging church with its contemplative mysticism? Does this mean they are also in support of CMU&#8217;s recent Refreshing Winds conference with Brian McLaren that is still being highlighting on their website (http://media.cmu.ca/)? Are mergers and money more important than being faithful and true to the gospel of Jesus Christ? What would Menno Simons say if he had a blog today?</p>
<blockquote><p> I voluntarily renounced all my worldly honor and reputation, my unchristian conduct, masses, infant baptism, and my unprofitable life, and at once willingly submitted to distress and poverty, and the cross of Christ.</p>
<p>    -<a href="http://www.mennosimons.net/ft002-renunciation.html">MENNO SIMON’S RENUNCIATION OF THE CHURCH OF ROME</a></p></blockquote>
<p>To understand why these questions and partnerships should be of concern to all Bible believing Mennonites, see these:</p>
<p><strong>Lucifer Emerging (Updated)</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/lucifer-emerging/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/lucifer-emerging/</a></p>
<p><strong>McLaren&#8217;s &#8216;Refreshing Winds&#8217;</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-5/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-5/</a></p>
<p><strong>Menno Simons on The Papistic Belief</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/10/29/the-papistic-belief/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/10/29/the-papistic-belief/</a></p>
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		<title>Mennonites and Prayer Labyrinths</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Labyrinths, Labyrinths Everywhere! Are you aware that when 900 or so of our youth and their sponsors went to San Antonio this past Easter to the national youth conference, they were encouraged to participate in a prayer labyrinth? Four years earlier, in L.A. they were also given this opportunity. Students at Fresno Pacific are given [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=3041&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Labyrinths, Labyrinths Everywhere!</strong></p>
<p>Are you aware that when 900 or so of our youth and their sponsors went to San Antonio this past Easter to the national youth conference, they were encouraged to participate in a prayer labyrinth? Four years earlier, in L.A. they were also given this opportunity. Students at Fresno Pacific are given the chance each year to walk a labyrinth set up by one of the Bible classes, and seminary students also participate in a prayer labyrinth in their spiritual formation course. Also, an article in the Christian Leader encouraged the use of a labyrinth.  So, what is a prayer labyrinth?</p></blockquote>
<p>To read the rest of this article at <a href="http://www.mennonitebrethren.net"><em>The Mennonite Brethren Network</em></a>, click <a href="http://www.mennonitebrethren.net/?p=118"><strong>HERE</strong></a>.</p>
<p><strong>RELATED Posts on this Blog:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/should-christians-love-or-leave-the-labyrinth/"><strong>Love or Leave the Labyrinth?</strong></a><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/mennonite-labyrinths/"><br />
<strong>Mennonite Labyrinths</strong></a><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/%E2%80%9Cwould-mennonites-actually-walk-the-labyrinthswastika%E2%80%9D/"><br />
<strong>“Would Mennonites actually walk the labyrinth/swastika?”</strong></a></p>
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		<title>McLaren&#8217;s Bible Interpretation promoted by Menno Weekly</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Scripture is something God had &#8216;let be,&#8217; and so it is at once God&#8217;s creation and the creation of the dozens of people and communities and cultures who produced it&#8221; -Brian McLaren, p. 162 Generous Orthodoxy, Following Jesus Christ without the Bible In their slide into further apostasy, Menno Weekly&#8217;s most recent blog posting encourages [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=3025&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Scripture is something God had &#8216;let be,&#8217; and so it is at once God&#8217;s creation and the creation of the dozens of people and communities and cultures who produced it&#8221; -Brian McLaren, p. 162 <em>Generous Orthodoxy</em>, <a href="http://www.letusreason.org/Emerge7.htm"><strong>Following Jesus Christ without the Bible</strong></a> </p></blockquote>
<p>In their slide into further apostasy, Menno Weekly&#8217;s most recent blog posting encourages readers to watch a video from author Brian McLaren, Anabaptist empathizer and blogger for Menno Weekly. In this video, because McLaren believes that scripture is just the creation of man, he has the audacity to say that &#8220;<em>Maybe what we should do is to get Jesus to edit the Lord&#8217;s prayer &#8230; to sound more like the way we think</em>.&#8221; </p>
<p><strong>Video: McLaren on heaven, hell and the kingdom of God</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.mennoweekly.org/blog/2011/10/20/video-mclaren-heaven-hell-and-kingdom-god/">http://www.mennoweekly.org/blog/2011/10/20/video-mclaren-heaven-hell-and-kingdom-god/</a></p>
<p>What McLaren is promoting here is the social gospel of this world, not the gospel of the Kingdom of our Lord. The problem with this theory is that even non-believers would agree with what is said in this video. This is what happens when men change God&#8217;s Word to mean what they think it should mean. Brian McLaren has said that <em>Everything Must Change</em>, and he has certainly been busy making that change come about. Too bad some Mennonites are encouraging his personal interpretation of the words of Jesus, because in doing so, they may also be partnering with Lucifer.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost. 1 Peter 1: 20,21</p></blockquote>
<p>RELATED:</p>
<p><strong>Treason in the Church: Trading Truth for a &#8220;Social Gospel&#8221; </strong><br />
<a href="http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/conspiracy2.htm">http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/conspiracy2.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>Lessen focus on eternity, McLaren says at Willow Creek student ministries conference</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=27867">http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=27867</a></p>
<p><strong>Brian McLaren’s Platform at Menno Weekly</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/09/20/brian-mclarens-platform-at-menno-weekly/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/09/20/brian-mclarens-platform-at-menno-weekly/</a></p>
<p><strong>Lucifer Emerging (Updated)</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/lucifer-emerging/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/lucifer-emerging/</a></p>
<p><strong>McLaren&#8217;s &#8216;Refreshing Winds&#8217;</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-5/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-5/</a></p>
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		<title>Audio Divina and Mennonites</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Music can be a vehicle for transporting the psyche back and forth between ordinary consciousness and contemplative awareness.” Mary T. Rankin Mary T Rankin is a spiritual director and retreat leader who currently co-directs Stillpoint at Beckside (www.stillpointatbeckside.com), an ecumenical spiritual retreat center in Bellingham, WA. where those seeking to experience the Mystery of God [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=2887&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Music can be a vehicle for transporting the psyche back and forth between ordinary consciousness and contemplative awareness.”<br />
Mary T. Rankin</p></blockquote>
<p>Mary T Rankin is a spiritual director and retreat leader who currently co-directs <em>Stillpoint at Beckside</em> (www.stillpointatbeckside.com), an ecumenical spiritual retreat center in Bellingham, WA. where those seeking to experience the Mystery of God can spend time walking and meditating in their labyrinth. With a background in music therapy (<a href="http://www.ami-bonnymethod.org/index.asp">The Bonny Method of Guided Imagery and Music</a>), Rankin developed Audio Divina (Sacred Listening) in 2003 while at Vancouver School of Theology. She has since authored &#8220;Audio Divina: Introducing a Contemplative Practice for Contemporary Times&#8221; (Journal of the Association for Music and Imagery, Vol. 9, 2003-2004), and “Audio Divina: Introducing a Musical Aid for Spiritual Direction” which appeared in the Presence Journal (<a href="http://www.sdiworld.org/archives_and_back_issues/volume-15.html">Volume 15, June 2009</a>), an international journal of SDI (<a href="http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/spiritualdirection.htm">Spiritual Directors International</a>). Rankin&#8217;s Audio Divina is also <a href="http://www.sdiworld.org/2007_event/conference-workshops--presenters/saturday-evening-activities.html?op=">listed as a Saturday evening workshop option at SDI</a> (among other options such as Dancing the Cosmic Dance, Reiki: A Spiritual Doorway to Natural Healing, Accessing Cosmic Unity with Wordless Song using Nigunim from the Jewish Mystical Tradition, and Coming Home to the Cosmos According to Harry Potter). Audio Divina by Mary Rankin can also be found <a href="http://biblio.noetic.org/search.php?formType=quickSearch&amp;originalDisplayType=&amp;sqlQuery=&amp;showQuery=&amp;showLinks=&amp;showRows=5&amp;client=&amp;citeStyle=&amp;citeOrder=&amp;quickSearchSelector=title&amp;quickSearchName=audio+divina"> (here) </a> at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Noetic_Sciences">Institute of Noetic Sciences</a>.</p>
<p>What does this have to do with Mennonites?</p>
<p>The following is an endorsement of Mary Rankin&#8217;s Audio Divina by retreat leader Lorie Martin.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>“Mary’s gift (Audio Divina) to me was found in the orderly framework yet the wide open invitation to meet with God in such a powerfully beautiful way. I love prayer encounters and this was a bright new experience in meeting with God. I highly recommend entering this rich method of prayer, sharing it, and enjoying it together in community as well.” -Lorie Martin, minister, retreat leader, spiritual director, and author of &#8216;Invited Simple Prayer Exercises for Solitude and Community”, Abbotsford, BC, Canada</p>
<p>Source: <strong>Audio Divina: a contemporary framework for an ancient practice</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.examiner.com/christian-spirituality-in-seattle/audio-divina-a-contemporary-framework-for-an-ancient-practice">http://www.examiner.com/christian-spirituality-in-seattle/audio-divina-a-contemporary-framework-for-an-ancient-practice</a></p></blockquote>
<p>This summer, Lorie Martin was one of the hosts at the BC Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches <em>Mark Centre</em> (Pender Island location).</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Summer Silence for Women</strong></p>
<p>A week to feast on silence and rest.</p>
<p>July 11th 4pm – July 15th 11am                                   </p>
<p>Come and linger over some quiet days by the sea. Watch the whales and seals play, listen to the crashing waves, savour the tastes of home cooked meals, and feel your heart come alive as you give yourself time and space to be. During your five days by the sea, you will be guided into silence interspersed with thoughtfully led group sessions and individual spiritual direction sessions. Cathy Hardy (cathyhardy.blogspot.com/), Lorie Martin and Evy Klassen will be your hosts for this silent retreat at the Pender Island Lodge.</p>
<p>We invite you to enjoy this week by the sea in a peaceful and inspiring setting:</p>
<p>    * Slowing down to listen, reflect and receive<br />
    * Giving attention to God’s active presence<br />
    * Being renewed and energized through the practice of silence<br />
    * Experiencing Spiritual Direction as a tool for opening up the inner journey of the heart</p>
<p>Source: www.markcentre.org/Retreats/SummerSilence.html</p></blockquote>
<p>As the Mennonites continue to show their lack of discernment as they soak in the ways of contemplative spirituality and silence, it would not be a big step for them to move from Lectio Divina to Audio Divina and be lulled into an even deeper sleep.</p>
<p><strong>NOTE:</strong> For further research on Audio Divina, Music-assisted Contemplative Prayer, go to these links:</p>
<p>http://www.stillpointatbeckside.com/team/mary-terry-rankin/audio-divina/</p>
<p>http://www.audiodivina.com/</p>
<p><strong>Related:</strong></p>
<p><strong>MB Herald Promotes Mark Centre</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/mb-herald-promotes-contemplative-centre-again/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/mb-herald-promotes-contemplative-centre-again/</a></p>
<p><strong>The Mark Centre and Lectio Divina</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/the-mark-centre-and-lectio-divina/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/the-mark-centre-and-lectio-divina/</a></p>
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		<title>Mennonite Students go to Benedictine Monastery to Sit in Silence</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last fall, TREK students participating in silent retreats at the Mennonite Brethren affiliated Mark Center were brought to a Benedictine Monastery in Mission B.C. called Westminster Abbey where they spent the afternoon practicing contemplative spirituality in silence. One participant wrote about the experience&#8230; Silent Retreat The Mark Centre was in a state of total silence [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=2857&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last fall, <a href="http://www.mbmission.org/trek/overview/">TREK</a> students participating in silent retreats at the <a href="http://www.bcmb.org/qry/page.taf?id=66">Mennonite Brethren affiliated</a> Mark Center were brought to a Benedictine Monastery in Mission B.C. called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Abbey_%28British_Columbia%29">Westminster Abbey</a> where they spent the afternoon practicing contemplative spirituality in silence. One participant wrote about the experience&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Silent Retreat</strong></p>
<p>The Mark Centre was in a state of total silence this weekend as we all entered into a 48 hour silent retreat. It was like taking daily quiet time with God, except that instead of just quiet, it was in fact silent, and instead of committing only 20 minutes or so to meeting with God, it was 2880 minutes.</p>
<p>We were released from busyness, forced not to rush through.</p>
<p>Something incredible happens when we remove all the distractions from our life and just sit and be still. I discovered that in these times I don&#8217;t need to be devoted to getting answers, or coming to any conclusions, but all I need is to simply be still in the presence of God.</p>
<p>I think it was very wise of my leaders to put this into our training schedule. It was a great weekend, but it also made us experience the how important it will be to bring this practice of being still before God into our field assignments, and our day to day lives. There will surely be times this coming year that will be truly hectic, and in those times it will be more important than ever to surrender our to do lists, concerns, and time so that we can rest in God’s quiet and hear his voice.</p>
<p>Inside Westminster Abbey (see <a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ATc-eOjhZmY/TKA4s_-tP4I/AAAAAAAAAFI/nyzDHR9BnNo/s1600/6102187.jpg">picture</a>) &#8211; Since the Mark Centre can get crowded when everyone wants their own silent space, we spent an afternoon at this monastery in Mission BC. </p>
<p>-<strong>Silent Retreat</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.worksinme.com/2010/09/silent-retreat.html">http://www.worksinme.com/2010/09/silent-retreat.html</a></p></blockquote>
<p>This was written by a student who participated in a program called <a href="http://www.mbmission.org/action">ACTION</a> with MBMSI for 6 weeks followed by the <a href="http://www.mbmission.org/trek/overview/">TREK program</a>, which he was on at the time of his blog post (dated Sept 26, 2010). See <strong>Welcome to TREK Training</strong> @ <a href="http://www.worksinme.com/2010/09/welcome-to-trek-training.html">http://www.worksinme.com/2010/09/welcome-to-trek-training.html</a>.</p>
<p>This student was sent on both of these trips by his MB church (Glencairn MB, Kitchener, ON). Do other Mennonite Brethren churches like Glencairn who send their youth to TREK know that they have been paying for them to be taught contemplative spirituality? Do they know they are being taught to sit in stillness at a Benedictine Monastery? Are Trekkers this fall going to be doing the same? Do churches, pastors, and parents care? </p>
<p>RELATED:</p>
<p><strong>Do Christian Leaders Understand The Contemplative Prayer Movement?</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/christianleaderscontemplativeprayer.html">http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/christianleaderscontemplativeprayer.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Contemplative Prayer—A mystical prayer practice that leads one into the &#8220;silence&#8221; but in actuality leads away from God. </strong><br />
<a href="http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/cp.htm">http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/cp.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>CONTEMPLATING CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER: IS IT REALLY PRAYER?</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.christiananswersforthenewage.org/Articles_ContemplativePrayer1.html">http://www.christiananswersforthenewage.org/Articles_ContemplativePrayer1.html</a></p>
<p><strong>CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER VS BIBLICAL PRAYER</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.earnestlycontend.com/cp.html">http://www.earnestlycontend.com/cp.html</a></p>
<p>ALSO IMPORTANT:</p>
<p><strong>ECUMENISM &#8230; Where do you draw the line? </strong><br />
<a href="http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/ecumenism2.htm">http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/ecumenism2.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>The &#8220;Evangelical&#8221; Seduction</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.reachingcatholics.org/seduction.html">http://www.reachingcatholics.org/seduction.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Evangelicals and Catholics Together &#8211; Part 1</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.svchapel.org/resources/articles/24-ecumenicalism/568-evangelicals-and-catholics-together-part-1">http://www.svchapel.org/resources/articles/24-ecumenicalism/568-evangelicals-and-catholics-together-part-1</a><br />
(parts 2 and 3 also at above link)</p>
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		<title>Mennonites and Muslims Merge?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:15,16 Instead of obeying the words of our Lord by witnessing, preaching the gospel, and sharing the truth, some [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=2868&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.</strong> Mark 16:15,16</em></p>
<p>Instead of obeying the words of our Lord by witnessing, preaching the gospel, and sharing the truth, some Mennonites recently prayed <em>with</em> Muslims for peace, and then participated in <a href="http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/dialectic.htm">the Hegelian dialectic process</a> with them over dinner.</p>
<blockquote><p>A five year long effort recently resulted in an evening of making placards and posters for “A Joint Muslim- Christian Public Prayer for Peace,” to be held on April 16 in front of the Vancouver Art Gallery. Muslims and Christians stood together to pray for peace in the nations of the Middle East. About 100 Mennonites and Muslims got together for dinner and poster making at Peace Mennonite Church on April 9. (&#8230;)</p>
<p>While the group ate, Mennonites listened to their Muslim tablemates share about their lives and their faith. The Mennonites, in turn, shared about their faith and what it means to live as a follower of Jesus (Isa in Arabic).</p>
<p>Both communities were equally represented at each table, with a facilitator encouraging<br />
tablemates to engage in dialogue by asking questions such as, “What was it like to grow up in your particular Muslim/ Christian community/family/culture</p>
<p>?” “What does your faith mean to you?”<br />
“What are some regular practices that are a part of your faith as a community and/or individually?”</p>
<p><strong>Muslims, Mennonites, act together, for peace</strong><br />
<a href="http://liveforpeace.org/node/390">http://liveforpeace.org/node/390</a></p></blockquote>
<p>This is a classic example seen in too many church settings today, and always includes the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;a diverse group of people (in the church, this is a mixture of believers (thesis) and unbelievers (antithesis), gather in a facilitated meeting (with a trained facilitator/teacher/group leader/change agent), using group dynamics (peer pressure), to discuss a social issue (or dialogue the Word of God), and reach a pre-determined outcome (consensus, compromise, or synthesis).&#8221; </p>
<p>-<a href="http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/dialectic.htm">Deceived by the Dialectic Process</a> </p></blockquote>
<p>Also mentioned in the above <em>Live For Peace</em> article is how the Mennonites referred to <em>Isa</em>, the Muslim&#8217;s Jesus, in order to appear to be on the same ground. But do they know that this <em>Isa</em> not the Jesus of the Bible?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;truly Born again Arab believers normally address Jesus as ‘Yesua Hamesa’&#8230;(the Islamic name for Jesus who is not the Jesus of The Gospels because Issa is not God’s Son)&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>-<a href="http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/judasstrikesagain.html">Judas Strikes Again </a></p></blockquote>
<p>This typical dialogue process generally achieves its intended goal so well that soon the Christians participating believe they are on common ground with other religions, even though Jesus said &#8220;I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me..&#8221; (John 14:6).</p>
<p>Though it seems hard to believe, many are being deceived today through dialogue methods intended to bring about compromise and interfaith unity. This is not the only recent dialogue between Mennonites and Muslims, as seen in these recent news articles:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/fyi/mennonite-theologians-meet-with-iranian-muslim-clerics-123678754.html">Mennonite theologians meet with Iranian Muslim clerics</a></strong><br />
Winnipeg Free Press</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.winnipegjewishreview.com/article_detail.cfm?id=1309&amp;sec=1&amp;title=Tuxedo_News:_Mennonite_Scholars_from_CMU_Face_Criticism_for_Meeting_with_Iranian_Clerics_from_Institution_Led_By_Ahmadinejad?s_Spiritual_Leader">Tuxedo News: Mennonite Scholars from CMU Face Criticism for Meeting with Iranian Clerics from Institution Led By Ahmadinejad’s Spiritual Leader</a></strong><br />
Winnipeg Jewish Review </p>
<p>It sounds like a page out of a book called <em>Ecumenical Jihad</em>, where author Peter Kreeft calls for ecumenical union with Islam to morally redeem society, arguing that others have salvation and without a personal saving faith in Christ (see <a href="http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/our-regretful-inability-to-become-a-signatory">Our Regretful Inability To Become A Signatory -The Manhattan Declaration</a>). Whether knowingly or out of ignorance, some Mennonites are entering into this union.</p>
<p><em>Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 2 Cor. 6:14</em></p>
<p><strong>RELATED:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Does God care what He is called &#8211; Can a Christian to call God by his Islamic name?</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.letusreason.org/current112.htm">http://www.letusreason.org/current112.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>What Is Ecumenical Jihad?</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.thebereancall.org/node/6854">http://www.thebereancall.org/node/6854</a></p>
<p><strong>The Myth of Islamic Tolerance</strong><br />
<a href="http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/badawi_tolerance.htm">http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/badawi_tolerance.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>Islamic Extremism: The Five Deceptions of Islam </strong><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qgbWMEedJM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qgbWMEedJM</a></p>
<p><strong>A Response to a Pastor of political correctness<br />
Peace at the expense of truth. </strong><br />
<a href="http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/forcing-change/08/5-inter-faith.htm">http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/forcing-change/08/5-inter-faith.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Mennonite Brethren affiliate &#8216;Imago Dei&#8217; Director now promoting Brian McLaren</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pastor Rob Des Cotes is the director of Imago Dei (imagodeicommunity.ca), a contemplative community affiliated with the Mennonite Brethren Conference of British Columbia, Canada. The church that he pastors, called Fairview Baptist Church in Vancouver, B.C., is advertising the following event on their website which takes place tomorrow at another Baptist church: Four Paths to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=2920&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Rob Des Cotes is the director of Imago Dei (imagodeicommunity.ca), a contemplative community affiliated with the <img alt="" src="http://mennolite.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/brianmclaren.jpg?w=200&#038;h=150" title="Brian McLaren" class="alignleft" width="200" height="150" />Mennonite Brethren Conference of British Columbia, Canada. The church that he pastors, called <em>Fairview Baptist Church</em> in Vancouver, B.C., is advertising the following event on their website which takes place tomorrow at another Baptist church:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Four Paths to Seeking Justice</strong><br />
- Free public lecture with Dr. Brian McLaren<br />
Carey Theological College invites you to a free public lecture with Dr. Brian McLaren, author, speaker, activist, theologian.  The topic is Four Paths to Seeking Justice.<br />
Date: September 22nd, 2011<br />
Time: 7 pm<br />
Location: West Point Grey Baptist Church, 4509 West 11th Ave, Vancouver.</p>
<p>http://www.fairviewbaptist.ca/2011/08/01/four-paths-to-seeking-justice-free-public-lecture-with-dr-brian-mclaren/</p>
</blockquote>
<p>In addition to promoting author, speaker and emergent church leader <a href="http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/brianmclaren.htm">Brian McLaren</a> and his emerging spirituality, the Fairview community pastored by Rob Des Cotes practices Celtic spirituality, contemplative spirituality, Taize, and spiritual direction. </p>
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		<title>Brian McLaren&#8217;s Platform at Menno Weekly</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As more and more Mennonites and their affiliates are jumping on the apostasy train, our warnings fall on deaf ears &#8211; and the SHAME award for Mennonites giving a platform to false teachers goes to&#8230;Menno Weekly! As seen here: Preaching Peace organization pushes discussion on God and violence By Scott Sundberg BALTIMORE — Brian McLaren [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=mennolite.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12600817&amp;post=2890&amp;subd=mennolite&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As more and more Mennonites and their affiliates are jumping on the apostasy train, our warnings fall on deaf ears &#8211; and the SHAME award for Mennonites giving a platform to false teachers goes to&#8230;Menno Weekly!</p>
<p>As seen here:</p>
<blockquote><p>
<strong>Preaching Peace organization pushes discussion on God and violence</strong><br />
By Scott Sundberg</p>
<p>BALTIMORE — Brian McLaren likes to quote Austrian priest, philosopher and social critic Ivan Illich, who said, “If you want to change a society, then you have to tell an alternative story.”</p>
<p>[Pictured: Michael Hardin, left, and Brian McLaren are among many writers, speakers and scholars who want to push the discussion on God and violence. — Photo by Scott Sundberg]</p>
<p>Part of the alternative story McLaren has been suggesting is this: Our God is not violent.</p>
<p>Joining in discussion with McLaren are Anthony Bartlett, Michael Hardin, Suzanne Ross and many others who are stating that Christians need to rethink how they look at violence in the world.</p>
<p>“We are basically caught between something real and something wrong,” McLaren noted at a Theology and Peace conference May 31-June 2 at Notre Dame College of Maryland.</p>
<p>The Theology and Peace organization came out of, and is still connected to, Preaching Peace, which seeks to educate the church in Jesus’ vision of peace.</p>
<p>Both organizations jointly have a “purpose of rethinking theology in a nonviolent framework,” according to Michael Hardin, who co-founded Preaching Peace with his wife, Lorri.</p>
<p>Hardin is the author of The Jesus Driven Life, and co-editor of the recent Compassionate Eschatology.</p>
<p>Through a grant, Michael and Lorri Hardin will be at the MC USA assembly in Pittsburgh July 4-9, giving away copies of The Jesus Driven Life to pastors. The hope is to equip pastors and lay leaders to be able to engage their congregations in discussing traditional Anabaptist views on non­violence and how those views impact Anabaptist theology.</p>
<p>“Preaching Peace is actively developing a curriculum for colleges and churches modeling a theology of peace,” Hardin said. “With Theology and Peace, our purpose is also the rethinking of our theology in a nonviolent framework that is congruent with the radical gospel — a gospel of peace — that Jesus preaches.”</p>
<p>Attendance at the organizations’ conferences, as well as membership of the organizations, shows a broad range of Christians interested in the discussion, including Roman Catholics, Episcopalians and Anglicans, Mennonites, Lutherans, Old Order River Brethren and Baptists.</p>
<p>“I hope this thinking will be transformative first to Christians, and then to people who see Christianity negatively,” said Elizabeth Richner, a lay church leader from Chester City, Pa. “And it can bring theological consistency, making our ethics and our theology match.”</p>
<p>McLaren added that “Preaching Peace and Theology and Peace are about people in ministry working together to find the language and story to reach people about mimesis and violence.”</p>
<p>“Mimesis” refers to the idea that people imitate others because they desire what others have, which can lead to violence. It is reflected in the Ten Commandments’ warnings against the many desires — typically caused by imitation of what someone else desires — that can lead to sins such as coveting, idolatry or killing.</p>
<p>- http://www.mennoweekly.org/2011/7/4/preaching-peace-organization-pushes-discussion-god/</p></blockquote>
<p>And here:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Does God ever go against God&#8217;s word?</strong><br />
By Brian McLaren<br />
August 23</p>
<p>[Editor’s note: Someone recently asked Brian McLaren, “Does God ever go against God’s word?” Here is McLaren’s response.]</p>
<p>Thanks for this great question. Like you, I want to always be open to the Spirit’s guidance for everything I say … and like you, I want to critically scrutinize “leadings” or “promptings” in the spirit of 1 Thess. 5:19-22 — avoiding superficial proof-texting on the one hand, and loosey-goosey-subjectivism on the other.</p>
<p>I would hope that my books would provide an example of how I try to do this. I constantly refer to the Scriptures — especially in my most recent five or six books — but not in a constitutional way. A narrative approach, focused on God’s self-revelation in Christ, means that the Scriptures can be brought powerfully to bear, without doing so in a rigid, domineering way.</p>
<p>This is what I find in 1 Thess. 5:19-22. Don’t despise prophetic utterances, but don’t accept them uncritically either. Both in the speaking and in the receiving, we need appropriate humility, knowing that chaff gets mixed with the wheat and that every statement — including inspired ones! — needs to be interpreted with wisdom and critical discernment. Another way to say it: both speaking and interpreting require Spirit-guidance, and the Spirit empowers and employs both wisdom and critical thinking.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say any formula is “sufficient” in the sense that “nothing more is ever needed and this guarantees that you will always be right,” but I would say it is “sufficient” in the sense that it gets you going on a wise and good path — which is always a path open to correction and further learning. James 3:13-18 comes to mind.</p>
<p>As I tried to explain in A New Kind of Christianity, I see inspiration not as dictation, but as God’s word emerging even amid the contrary voices and arguments in the point-counterpoint of the text.</p>
<p>I like how I heard Doug Pagitt put it: the Scriptures are an honored participant in every conversation.</p>
<p>Brian McLaren is an author, speaker and activist who blogs at brianmclaren.net, where this blog originally appeared.</p>
<p>- http://www.mennoweekly.org/blog/2011/8/23/does-god-ever-go-against-gods-word/</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Menno-lite&#8217;s comment:</strong></p>
<p>God never goes against His Word, but Brian Mclaren is in no position to answer such a question as he is not for God&#8217;s Word, neither is Doug Pagitt. Yet both frequently use it, but only to twist it.</p>
<p><strong>RELATED:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Lucifer Emerging</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/lucifer-emerging/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/lucifer-emerging/</a></p>
<p>See <strong>Parts 1-5</strong> of Menno-lite&#8217;s detailed review on McLaren&#8217;s sessions at the Canadian Mennonite University <em>Refreshing Winds</em> conference, here:</p>
<p><strong>McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 1</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/02/22/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-1/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/02/22/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-1/</a></p>
<p><strong>McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 2</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-2/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-2/</a></p>
<p><strong>McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 3</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-3/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-3/</a></p>
<p><strong>McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 4</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-4/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-4/</a></p>
<p><strong>McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 5</strong><br />
<a href="http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-5/">http://mennolite.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/mclarens-refreshing-winds-at-cmu-part-5/</a></p>
<p><strong>FOR FURTHER RESEARCH:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Surprise, Surprise, Brian McLaren Aligns with New Age Leaders</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.ericbarger.com/mclaren.NA.htm">http://www.ericbarger.com/mclaren.NA.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>Interview with Brian McLaren &#8211; His Views on the Cross, the Church and Hell </strong><br />
<a href="http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/brianmclarenandthecross.htm">http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/brianmclarenandthecross.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>An Open Letter to Brian McLaren</strong><br />
<a href="http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs019/1101818841456/archive/1107190606422.html">http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs019/1101818841456/archive/1107190606422.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Brian McLaren &#8211; New Age/Mystic/Contemplative </strong><br />
<a href="http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/brianmclaren.htm">http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/brianmclaren.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>An Emergent Manifesto of Hope by Doug Pagitt and Tony Jones (Bad Fruit)</strong><br />
<a href="http://thebereanlibrary.com/archives/2110">http://thebereanlibrary.com/archives/2110</a></p>
<p>Doug Pagitt, Solomon&#8217;s Porch and Christian Yoga<br />
<a href="http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/dougpagitt.htm">http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/dougpagitt.htm</a></p>
<p><strong>WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE BIBLE?</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c55.shtml">http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c55.shtml</a></p>
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