As more and more Mennonites and their affiliates are jumping on the apostasy train, our warnings fall on deaf ears – and the SHAME award for Mennonites giving a platform to false teachers goes to…Menno Weekly!
As seen here:
Preaching Peace organization pushes discussion on God and violence
By Scott Sundberg
BALTIMORE — Brian McLaren likes to quote Austrian priest, philosopher and social critic Ivan Illich, who said, “If you want to change a society, then you have to tell an alternative story.”
[Pictured: Michael Hardin, left, and Brian McLaren are among many writers, speakers and scholars who want to push the discussion on God and violence. — Photo by Scott Sundberg]
Part of the alternative story McLaren has been suggesting is this: Our God is not violent.
Joining in discussion with McLaren are Anthony Bartlett, Michael Hardin, Suzanne Ross and many others who are stating that Christians need to rethink how they look at violence in the world.
“We are basically caught between something real and something wrong,” McLaren noted at a Theology and Peace conference May 31-June 2 at Notre Dame College of Maryland.
The Theology and Peace organization came out of, and is still connected to, Preaching Peace, which seeks to educate the church in Jesus’ vision of peace.
Both organizations jointly have a “purpose of rethinking theology in a nonviolent framework,” according to Michael Hardin, who co-founded Preaching Peace with his wife, Lorri.
Hardin is the author of The Jesus Driven Life, and co-editor of the recent Compassionate Eschatology.
Through a grant, Michael and Lorri Hardin will be at the MC USA assembly in Pittsburgh July 4-9, giving away copies of The Jesus Driven Life to pastors. The hope is to equip pastors and lay leaders to be able to engage their congregations in discussing traditional Anabaptist views on nonviolence and how those views impact Anabaptist theology.
“Preaching Peace is actively developing a curriculum for colleges and churches modeling a theology of peace,” Hardin said. “With Theology and Peace, our purpose is also the rethinking of our theology in a nonviolent framework that is congruent with the radical gospel — a gospel of peace — that Jesus preaches.”
Attendance at the organizations’ conferences, as well as membership of the organizations, shows a broad range of Christians interested in the discussion, including Roman Catholics, Episcopalians and Anglicans, Mennonites, Lutherans, Old Order River Brethren and Baptists.
“I hope this thinking will be transformative first to Christians, and then to people who see Christianity negatively,” said Elizabeth Richner, a lay church leader from Chester City, Pa. “And it can bring theological consistency, making our ethics and our theology match.”
McLaren added that “Preaching Peace and Theology and Peace are about people in ministry working together to find the language and story to reach people about mimesis and violence.”
“Mimesis” refers to the idea that people imitate others because they desire what others have, which can lead to violence. It is reflected in the Ten Commandments’ warnings against the many desires — typically caused by imitation of what someone else desires — that can lead to sins such as coveting, idolatry or killing.
Does God ever go against God’s word?
By Brian McLaren
[Editor’s note: Someone recently asked Brian McLaren, “Does God ever go against God’s word?” Here is McLaren’s response.]
Thanks for this great question. Like you, I want to always be open to the Spirit’s guidance for everything I say … and like you, I want to critically scrutinize “leadings” or “promptings” in the spirit of 1 Thess. 5:19-22 — avoiding superficial proof-texting on the one hand, and loosey-goosey-subjectivism on the other.
I would hope that my books would provide an example of how I try to do this. I constantly refer to the Scriptures — especially in my most recent five or six books — but not in a constitutional way. A narrative approach, focused on God’s self-revelation in Christ, means that the Scriptures can be brought powerfully to bear, without doing so in a rigid, domineering way.
This is what I find in 1 Thess. 5:19-22. Don’t despise prophetic utterances, but don’t accept them uncritically either. Both in the speaking and in the receiving, we need appropriate humility, knowing that chaff gets mixed with the wheat and that every statement — including inspired ones! — needs to be interpreted with wisdom and critical discernment. Another way to say it: both speaking and interpreting require Spirit-guidance, and the Spirit empowers and employs both wisdom and critical thinking.
I wouldn’t say any formula is “sufficient” in the sense that “nothing more is ever needed and this guarantees that you will always be right,” but I would say it is “sufficient” in the sense that it gets you going on a wise and good path — which is always a path open to correction and further learning. James 3:13-18 comes to mind.
As I tried to explain in A New Kind of Christianity, I see inspiration not as dictation, but as God’s word emerging even amid the contrary voices and arguments in the point-counterpoint of the text.
I like how I heard Doug Pagitt put it: the Scriptures are an honored participant in every conversation.
Brian McLaren is an author, speaker and activist who blogs at brianmclaren.net, where this blog originally appeared.
God never goes against His Word, but Brian Mclaren is in no position to answer such a question as he is not for God’s Word, neither is Doug Pagitt. Yet both frequently use it, but only to twist it.
See Parts 1-5 of Menno-lite’s detailed review on McLaren’s sessions at the Canadian Mennonite University Refreshing Winds conference, here:
McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 1
McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 2
McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 3
McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 4
McLaren’s Refreshing Winds at CMU – Part 5
FOR FURTHER RESEARCH:
Surprise, Surprise, Brian McLaren Aligns with New Age Leaders
Interview with Brian McLaren – His Views on the Cross, the Church and Hell
An Open Letter to Brian McLaren
Brian McLaren – New Age/Mystic/Contemplative
An Emergent Manifesto of Hope by Doug Pagitt and Tony Jones (Bad Fruit)
Doug Pagitt, Solomon’s Porch and Christian Yoga
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